Thursday, September 22, 2011

Zanthus - a paranormal connection

Dear readers

It's a warm and gusty day here in Adelaide, so I am taking a day off and visiting my local library to read science magazines. The subject of this post is the 22 August 1968, Zanthus case, which my co-blogger, Keith Basterfield has recently posted about.

I was reading Keith's posts, and although all the details were great to see, one aspect completely surprised me.

Walter Gardin revealed that during the event, and for six months afterwards, he felt that he was under the control of something/someone who was gathering information on people on Earth. This is an extremely unusual aspect to the whole event; which has never been revealed before. It took an interview 43 years after the event to uncover it.

Mentally digesting this revelation, I then recalled some information I'd read in Jacques Vallee's "Forbidden Science - Volume two." Documatica Research, LLC. San Francisco. ISBN 978-0-615-24974-2.

(1) In November 1974 (p273) Vallee reviewed the Herb Schirmer, 1967 abduction case. "There are several interesting things to note in connection with the case. First, there had been a knock on Schirmer's door at 10.45am that day. The dog rushed to the door and Schirmer opened it: there was no one there. In another curious detail, he never felt his body after the green flash." (One humanoid held a box which emitted a green flash.)

(2) In September 1977 (p397.) Vallee was talking to Father Gill (Papua, 1959 observation of occupants on a UFO) about his events. Over coffee, Vallee asked Gill "Do you ever dream about the 1959 incident?" then when Gill responded "Yes." Vallee further asked "Anything unusual about those dreams?"

"Funny you should ask that. Few people inquire about these details. I dream about something that happened an hour after the object flew away."

"He heard an explosion just outside the Mission building, in Boainai: his hair stood up. That's the moment, that always comes back in his dreams, he told me, rather than the sighting itself."

(3) In November 1978 (p447) Vallee had a discussion with Lieutenant-Colonel Larry Coyne (pilot in the Mansfield, Ohio helicopter event.) "After his sighting he remained 72 hours unable to sleep. A week later he had the experience of floating out of his body. And he began some personal psychic experiments."

The point that Vallee makes about these three cases is "So now we have a series of cases in which UFO observations have combined with paranormal effects that are never mentioned in the literature: Crutwell, Father Gill, Schirmer, and now Coyne." (p447.)


Could this mean that had we inquired of the witnesses in the 1966 Tully "nest" affair, or the 1980 Rosedale CE2 case, or any other Australian close encounter, that paranormal associations would have emerged?

Are readers aware of any other early (say 1950's-mid 1970's) Australian cases where paranormal events are part and parcel of the published event? If so, please share.


  1. Hi Pauline,

    These sorts of connections have been pointed out before by lots of researchers. I even wrote a piece recently on the 1966 Tully incident that featured some of these sorts of events, namely in the "Ufologist" back in May-June, 2009, "Albert's "Dream" machine - UFO Reality". I suspect you haven't read that as you are on record here saying you don't think much of the magazine. Back when Jacques Vallee was writing about these connections in his diary, now published in his "Forbidden Science" books, and he was referring to them in articles and books back then, like "The Invisible College", I was also describing similar things in an Australian context - see "Psychic Australian" back in 1976 - a 2 part article "UFOs - the psychic connection". So people have already drawn attention to this connection. and yes, when you ask and look, one often comes across these connections. Food for thought.

  2. Hiya Pauline, if we look at Vallee's examples and step away from ufological interpretations, they aren't particularly unusual.

    We've probably all heard a knock on the door and found nobody there. Likewise, it isn't unheard of for dogs to act like someone's at the door when they aren't.

    Regarding dreams, we all experience life-changing events and don't necessarily dream about them in specifics. This surprises me as, intuitively, it seems reasonable that big events would become part of the dream landscape. Instead, if these events show up at all, it's often more suggestive and abstract and circles the experience rather than replaying it.

    In Coyne's case, he wasn't alone and the sheer crash-like shock of the experience could conceivably keep someone awake out of over-stimulation. I can personally attest to sleep-deprivation causing 'out-of-body' experiences.

    It's possible that Vallee and others were on the right track but they haven't made a good case for correlation implying causation.


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