Tuesday, April 20, 2021

Weather details for the 15 July 2019 U.S.S. Russell 'drone' event

4 March 2019 UAP photographs

In a previous article, I located weather details for the date/time and location of the 4 March 2019 UAP photograph, taken by a weapon systems officer in a U.S. Navy aircraft. I utilized data available from the Upper Atmospheric Soundings database of the University of Wyoming. 

July 2019 "drone swarm"

Later that year, in July2019, several U.S. Navy Destroyers, reported a number of observations of what they referred to as "drones," off the West coast of the U.S.A. As part of a 23 March 2021 article on The Drive's War Zone blog, authors Adam Kehoe and Marc Cecotti, determined that one of the ships involved, the U.S.S. Russell (DDG-059) had reported numerous observations of "drones" on the evening of 15 July 2019. They secured a copy of the Russell's deck log for the period 14-16 July 2019 via a Freedom of Information Act request.

I wondered what the weather had been like at the location of the U.S.S. Russell on that night? Could obtaining the weather details led to any conclusions about the nature of the objects involved? Marc Cecotti kindly forwarded me a copy of the Russell's deck log. The observations stretched from 2115hrs local time to 2351hrs, with all but one seen between 2115 and 2237hrs. 

I was particularly interested that at 2140hrs the log recorded that a "drone" was sighted at a bearing of 321 degrees T, at a height of 700 feet and a range of 2 nautical miles. A trigonometrical calculation indicates this was a mere 3 degree elevation, above the horizon. 

So, what was the weather like at the location of the Russell, given in the log as 32 degrees 43 minutes latitude North, and longitude 119 degrees 35 minutes West, at 2140hrs 15 July 2019? Given that this is a location at sea off the coast of California, the nearest land based Upper Atmospheric readings station was at San Diego. I considered this to be too far away to be accurate. I therefore turned to the National Data Buoy Center.  This Center is part of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's National Weather Service, and operates a large number of data collecting buoys at sea. 

The nearest weather buoy to the Russell that night was station number 46047, located at latitude 32 degrees 24 minutes North and longitude 119 degrees 30 minutes West, at Tanner Bank, 121 nautical miles West of San Diego. 

The data for 2140hrs on 15 July 2019 is available in the buoy's historical records.

In summary, the relevant weather details from the buoy are that the wind at the time was from 324 degrees (roughly North West); at a speed of 6.3 metres per second (14 milers per hour); atmospheric pressure was 1013.2hPa; air temperature was 15.7 degrees C; and wave height was 1.63 metres. The visibility data is not available. The buoys do not record cloud details. 

As a comparison, I also accessed details from the buoy's records for 2140hrs 14 July 2019, the previous night, when other destroyers, including the U.S. S. Kidd reported multiple 'drone" observations. A summary is as follows. the wind was from 295 degrees; at 5.5 metres per second; the pressure was 1015.7hPa; temperature was 14.8 degrees C; wave height was 1.68 metres. No visibility data available.

Marc Cecotti advised me that from other relevant ships' logs; he noted that it had been foggy at the time. 

Position of "drones"

On the evening of the 15 Jul 2019 with the wind coming from 324 degrees (roughly North West) the Russell's log records the direction of observations as being from 030 degrees ( a single observation) through 252 degrees to 325 degrees (eight observations.) The 2140hrs observation was a bearing of 321 degrees T. The wind was blowing from almost exactly behind this "drone." 

A look at the U.S.S. Rafael Peralta's deck log shows: 2146hrs 15 Jul 2019 2 UAV at a bearing of 310 degrees T; and 2152hrs 4 UAV's bearing 320 degrees T. Again, close to the direction from which the wind was blowing. 

It seems to me, that it would be interesting to examine the bearings of "drone" observations made from all the ships involved; to see what relationship there is between the direction the wind was blowing; and the direction of observation of "drones."

In closing, I would like again to thank Marc Cecotti for sharing the Russell's deck log. It is this sharing of raw data, without withholding dates/times etc, which allows others to build on someone else's work. A most important aspect of networking. We are all in this together. 

Sunday, April 11, 2021

What do we know about the 4 March 2019 U.S. Navy UAP photographs?

On 3 December 2020, an article authored by The Debrief's Tim McMillan revealed the existence of a UAP photograph taken from a United States military aircraft. The photograph was reportedly taken in the air by a weapon systems operator in an F/A-18 military jet aircraft, somewhere off the East coast of the U.S. McMillan reported having been told that the photograph had appeared in a 2018 intelligence report issued by the U.S. UAP Task Force (UAPTF.)

A check by me, of the metadata of the image shown by McMillan, indicated that this particular image was created on 4/03/2019, and not in 2018. I reached out to McMillan to point this out, and he advised that his understanding was that the image shown was a re-photograph of the original photograph. In other words, the metadata attached to the published photograph was not the original metadata. However, like me, a number of other commentators on the Internet felt that this was not a photo of a photo, but an original photograph taken on 4/3/2019. The earliest known appearance of the photograph within the UAP community, was traced back to February 2020.

In December 2020, detective work by Swedish based researcher, Roger Glassel, suggested that the reflection on the cockpit window was due to it being a reflection of the pilot's helmet. Glassel then deduced, that the aircraft was a U.S. Navy plane, belonging to Strike Squadron VFA-32. This squadron's home base was Naval Air Station Oceana, Virginia Beach, Virginia, U.S.A. 

So, the best information at that point, was that the photograph was taken on 4 March 2019, off the east coast of the USA in a training area used by the VFA-32. 

George Knapp

In an article dated 6 April 2021, Las Vegas journalist George Knapp revealed the existence of at least three UAP photographs taken on the same day, namely 4 March 2019. All by the same weapons system operator in an F/A-18 U.S. Navy aircraft; in the same geographic area, off the East coast of the U.S.A., and using nothing more sophisticated than an iPhone. These were:

1. At 2.44p.m. a photograph of an object referred to as a "Sphere."

2. At 3.02p.m. a photograph of an object referred to as the "Acorn." This shaped object featured in the original The Debrief article. Thus, confirming that the original The Debrief photograph had indeed been taken on 4 March 2019 and not in 2018, as McMillan reported having been told. 

3. At 3.14p.m. a photograph referred to as a "Metallic blimp," which appeared to have a  number of appendages. 

Interestingly, another article on the unidentified-net, has the times of the photographs as 2.44; 3.02 and 3.16pm. and provides some metadata from all three photos, which I image below:

As the images provided by Knapp did not have any available attached metadata; I wondered where the unidentified website had gained the above three pieces of metadata?  A possible explanation lies in the unidentified website article, where the author writes that their understanding comes "...from a very informed source who actively had access to all photos and data..." Combined with Knapp's source of the photographs, it would appear that the UAPTF is leaking badly.


Initially, some researchers suspected that the photographs may not have been authentic. However, this was soon put to rest by U.S. researcher John Greenewald, who contacted the Pentagon.  The response, by Pentagon UAP spokesperson, Susan Gough, included the statement:

"I can confirm that the referenced photos...were taken by Navy personnel. The UAPTF included these incidents in their ongoing examinations."

Weather at the time

Each of the three UAP photographs in the Knapp article show blue sky with some cloud and appear taken from an altitude of perhaps 30,000 feet (9,100 metres.)   I checked the University of Wyoming's upper atmospheric soundings database for details. I image the information for the time nearest the UAP photographs, from station number 72402, situated at Wallops island, Virginia; and station 72403 situated at Stirling, Virginia. 

This indicates that at the time, at an altitude of 9,100m the outside temperature was -45.7 degrees Celsius, pressure was 300.0hPa; relative humidity 17%; the wind was from 240 degrees at a speed of 82 knots. 

Here the outside temperature at 9,040m was -47.3 degrees Celsius; pressure was 300.0hPa; relative humidity 24%; wind from 250 degrees at a speed of 82 knots. 

The above figures provided the best estimate of weather details at the location where the photographs were taken. I was particularly interested in the wind speed at that altitude, as there had been some mention that the "Acorn" object had been stationary at the time the photograph was taken; which on the available wind speed data above, meant that the object was holding position in an 82 knot wind from roughly the west ( which is 270 degrees.)

As for the weather at surface level, I found a site which provided the following data for Virginia Beach, Virginia. At 3p.m. the surface temperature was 45 degrees Fahrenheit; wind speed was 8 mph from the North. There was no precipitation. Cloud percentage was not given. 

Saturday, March 20, 2021

Former Director of National Intelligence, John Ratcliffe, speaks out

John Ratcliffe

John Ratcliffe was the United States Director of National Intelligence, between May 2020 and 20 January 2021, under the Trump administration. On 19 March 2021, he was interviewed by Maria Bartiromo, on FOX News Primetime. The following is a transcript of that segment, prepared by myself from a full length version, kindly supplied by Giuliano Marinkovic. This version is longer than the version being circulated on such social media sites as Twitter. 


MB - Joining me right now, is the former Director of National Intelligence, John Ratcliffe. John it is great to see you tonight. Thank you such much for being here.

JR - You bet, Maria.

MB - John, you have seen, in your role, the most intelligence that anybody has seen other than the President, as the Director of National Intelligence. I have been wanting to ask you this next question for a while. I want to ask you about UFOs - Unidentified Flying Objects. The Pentagon is going to come out with a report by June 1st, and in the $2.3 trillion dollar omnibus appropriations legislation passed in January, it includes the Intelligence Authorization Act; money for the Pentagon to continue investigating UFOs. John, we are going to get this report June 1st, Can you tell us, have Unidentified Flying Objects been seen?

JR - Well sure. We have lots of reports about what we call Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon and this actually is a program that's been in place for a few years in terms of a task force that has been there under the National Defense Authorization Act, but as you correctly point out Maria, there's now a report that will be issued by the Pentagon, by the Secretary of Defense and the Director of National Intelligence. (KB - See comment 1 below.)

I actually wanted to get this information out and declassified (comment 2) before I left office, but we weren't able to get it down into an unclassified format that we could talk about quickly enough, but frankly there are a lot more sightings than have been made public. (comment 3.)

Some of those have been declassified. When we talk about sightings we're talking about objects that have been seen by Navy or Air Force pilots, or have been picked up by satellite imagery (comment 4) that, frankly, engage in actions that are difficult to explain; movements that are hard to replicate, that we don't have the technology for, or traveling at speeds that you know exceed the sound barrier without a sonic boom.

So, in short, things that we are observing that are difficult to explain. And so, you know, there's actually quite a few of those, and I think that that information is being gathered and will be put out in a way that the American people can see.

We always, when we see these things, Maria, we always look for a plausible explanation. Weather can cause disturbances - visual disturbances. Sometimes, we wonder whether or not our adversaries have technologies that are a little bit further down the road than we thought, or that we realized, but there are instances where we don't have good explanations for some of the things that we've seen. And, you know, when that information becomes declassified I'll be able to talk a little bit more about that.

MB - Can you tell us where it was seen?

JR - Actually all over the world. There have been sightings all over the world, and when we talk about sightings, the other thing I will tell you is, it's not just a pilot, or just a satellite or some intelligence collection. Usually we have multiple sensors that are picking up these things (comment 5.) And so, again, some of, they are, just, they're unexplained phenomenon and there's actually quite a few more than has been made public.

I think it will be healthy for as much of this information to get out as possible, so that the American people can see some of the things we have been dealing with.

MB - OK. Wow, that is pretty extraordinary. We so appreciate that, that you're talking to us about this. Can this year get any weirder. Pandemic, shutdown, UFOs. John Ratcliffe it's great to see you. Thank you so much ...


1. The report will be submitted by the Director of National Intelligence. Thus, Ratcliffe, had he still been in office would have been the individual submitting the report. As he was the DNI between May 2020 and 20 January 2021, you can reasonable state that he would have been briefed on the subject of UAP. The new Director of National Intelligence, under the Biden administration is Avril Haines.

2. "declassified before I left office..." This implies that some, if not all, of this information is currently/was previously, classified. Please take a look at my previous blog post where I discussed security classifications levels of UAP information. 

3. "lot more sightings than have been made public" Most of us would have believed this statement to be true, even before Ratcliffe made it.

4. "or have been picked up by satellite imagery" A very interesting statement indeed. There have long been accounts given of such satellite detected UAP. As long ago as 1988, researcher Jacques Vallee (Forbidden Science: Volume 3) in a diary entry dated 28 June 1988, speaking about Hal Puthoff, wrote:

"Hal has seen a 2-inch thick file that details UFO observations by infra-red satellites: 'The objects arrive 3,000 miles above the Earth,' he told me. 'The satellites pick them up as they come near the surface and going away the same manner as they came in. Their infra-red signature shows a level of energy 15 times that of an aircraft carrier. But the data is so tightly classified nobody wants to talk about it.' "

5. "Usually we have multiple sensors that are picking up these things." Again, a confirmation of rumors or stories of which we are all aware.

What security classification level does the U.S. Department of Defense assign to information about UAP?

Christian Lambright

Blog readers may recall, that back in 2019 U.S. researcher Christian Lambright submitted a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request to the Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI) for documents relating to the November 2004 U.S.S. Nimitz incidents. Later that year, Christian received a final response from ONI, which in part read:

"We have discovered certain briefing slides that are classified TOP SECRET...We have also determined that ONI possesses a video classified SECRET that ONI is not the Original Classification Authority for. ONI has forwarded your request to Naval Air Systems Command to make a determination on releasability..."

So, at least in relation to the 2004 Nimitz incidents, certain briefing slides are classified TOP SECRET and one video is SECRET. Below are images of part of the ONI response letter. 


On 27 April 2020, the DoD released copies of three declassified videos, namely FLIR, Gimbal and Go Fast. The official DoD release, in part, read:

"The Department of Defense has authorized the release of three unclassified Navy videos, one taken in November 2004 and the other two in January 2015. The released videos can be found at the Naval Air Systems Command FOIA Reading Room."


In order to release these three videos the DoD would have looked at their previous security classification system and declassified them, to "unclassified." Note that the OCA is Naval Air Systems Command, the same location in the Navy specified in the 2019 ONI statement, where it stated that it had located a video classified SECRET relating to the U.S.S. Nimitiz 2004 incident. Could it be that this SECRET video is in fact one of either FLIR, Gimbal or Go Fast? Or is it yet another Navy video? We just don't know. 

Marc Cecotti's research 

In a 13 March 2021 blog post, French researcher Marc Cecotti revealed details of internal U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) emails concerning Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests about UAP.

In one email, dated 10 July 2020, from Joseph Gradisher, N2N6 Strategic Engagements U.S. Navy; to Jeffrey Jones COMNAVSAFECEN, Deputy Director for Safety Priorities; part of the email read:

"Additionally, there is now a Security Classification Guidance document (at the SECRET) level, that addresses the UAP issue and what may/may not be discussed publicly."

What is a Security Classification Guidance document?

On the Internet I located a PDF document titled "Security Classification Guidance, Student Guide" a course designed for this who need to write/know about these guides. I will cite relevant portions of this document.

"When an Original Classification Authority or OCA, determines that information must be classified, he or she must also develop security classification guidance to communicate that determination to others."

"Develop clear and precise security classification guidance is critical because it ensures that all users of the information treat it consistently and protect it properly."

"Security classification guidance is any instruction or source that sets out the classification of a system, plan, program, mission or project."

Documents you can read 

The U.S. DoD has DoD Instruction 5200.01"DoD Information Security Program and Protection of Sensitive Compartmented Information" or SCI which establishes the general framework and responsibilities for DoD implementers of national policy a on classified national security information.

DoD manual 5200.01 Volumes one through three "DoD Information Security Program" is authorized from the above instruction.

DoD Manual 5200.45 "Instructions for Developing Security Classification Guides" provides detailed information on how to develop Security Classification guidance.

Back to the student guide

"The original classification decision is communicated through a Security Classification Guide or SCG. The SCG covers the specific item requiring classification, the classification level assigned, reason for classification and declassification instructions."

Speaking about SCG's it goes on to say that:

"To maximize usability for the greatest number of individuals, the guide should be unclassified...For some programs, however, they may need to be classified..."


Gradisher's email dated 10 July 2020 to Jeffrey Jones states "...there is now a Security Classification Guidance document (at the SECRET) level..." Thus it would appear that this particular SCG is not unclassified, and is in fact classified at the SECRET level.

The Black Vault

In an article on The Black Vault dated, 13 March 2021,  about this UAP SCG,  John Greenewald wrote:

"The other great revelation with the email is the admission that a "Security Classification Guide" or SCG exists for the UAP topic. On a hunch, The Black Vault filed for this very document back in January 2021, and requests for the SCG remain open to both the Navy and OSD."

I am aware of at least one other, non-American, researcher who has submitted an FOIA request for this SCG.

We await the results of the FOIA requests for a copy of the DoD SCG which relates to UAP. 

Monday, March 15, 2021

Jack Sarfatti - his ideas about the Tic Tac came from "a phone call from an alien"


For some time now, U.S. physicist Jack Sarfatti has been speaking out about his thoughts on the 2004 USS Nimitz encounters, with what has come to be known as the "Tic Tac" UAP. In short Sarfatti postulates that there is:

 "...evidence of extremely low power warp drive with time-travel-to-past capability in a meta-material fuselage controlled by a conscious AI post-quantum computer."

Who is Jack Sarfatti?

According to his LinkedIn page, Sarfatti was born 14 September 1939.  He received a BA in Physics from Cornell University (1956-1960); an M. S.  in Physics from University of California, San Diego (1965-1968); and a PhD in theoretical and mathematical physics from the University of California, Riverside (1968-1969.)

Career wise, the LinkedIn account tells us:

* Sep 1967 - Jun 1973, Assistant Professor of Physics, San Diego State

* Sep 1971 - Nov 1987, US Navy PACE -Instructor - teaching math to young sailors and marines onboard fighting ships at sea

* Jan 1980 - Dec 1986. Science advisor to Lawry Chickering Institute for Contemporary Studies - ISB. Helped formulate the Strategic Defense Initiative behind the scenes for Paul Nitze, Cap Weinberger and POTUS

* Jan 1996 - Present, CEO Sarfatti Group/ Internet Science Education Project.

His academic work

He has published numerous scientific articles, particularly in the areas of consciousness; quantum physics and astronomy. A sample of his work includes:

* "Toward a unified field theory of gravitation and strong interactions" Foundations of Physics, Vol. 5, 301-307. 1975

* "The Physical Roots of Consciousness" in Mishlove, J. "The Roots of Consciousness." Random House, 1975

* "Can the electroweak unified force be used to neutralize nuclear weapons?" Defense Analysis, Vol. 2 Issue 1. pp49-51. 1986

* "Dark Energy and Dark Matter from the same Vacuum condensate"  APS April Meeting 2003, B9. 012, 2003

* "Retro-Causal Holographic Dark Energy Coherent Vacuum Super-Solid Tetrad Emergent Gravity"  Cal Tech APS 10/30/10

* "Bohm Pilot Wave Post Quantum Theory" Retro causality workshop, The Embassy, 2017

Sarfatti has also published a number of books, including:

 * 1974 "Space Time and Beyond" by Bob Tober, in conversation with physicists Jack Sarfatti and Fred Alan Wolf.

* 2002. "Space Time and beyond 11"

* 2002. "Destiny Matrix"

* 2005 "Super Cosmos"

* 2020 "Sarfatti Lectures in Physics Volume One: The Principles of Metric Engineering Low Energy Low Speed Warp Drive"

Image courtesy Amazon Books

His personal website, features information on physics, cosmology, advanced propulsion, meta materials, quantum computing; a section headed "UFO sightings map;" and a weird desk area which provides information about Bigfoot, UFOs, sea monsters etc. His own blog includes pieces on a wide range of subjects including Robert Bigelow; quantum gravity, interviews with Luis Elizondo; much about UAP physics and his own theories;  

Where do his views originate?

I took a look back in the diaries of Jacques Vallee for the early history of where Sarfatti's ideas originated. There was an interesting diary entry in "Forbidden Science: Volume Three" (pp98-99) dated 27 July 1982:

"Walking through North Beach I passed Cafe Trieste where Jack Sarfatti was engaged in some passionate argument. He saw me and ran to catch me. So we ended up at Cafe Puccini, where I ordered a prosciutto sandwich and a cup of coffee , and listened to his theories.

Sarfatti's ideas are full of color, short on proofs. he 'confided' to me, as he does to everyone within earshot, that people close to Reagan, Meese and Caspar Weinberger support him; he hints he is close to Bechtel.

The wife of the American ambassador in Paris keeps calling him at Cafe Trieste and political pundit Bill Buckley listens to him. It is impossible to separate the real from the imaginary in all this.

Jack's life is a tapestry of stunning coincidences and romantic episodes. It is undeniable that he was a child prodigy. In 1953, age 15 (we are the same age) he was sitting in the Brooklyn library reading a math book on switching functions when he received a phone call from a mechanical voice that plunged him into a quasi hypnotic state. He only remembers one phone call but his mother states there was a series of them, always from the same bizarre voice.

The phone calls changed his life, he said. They led him to theorize about the energy of the vacuum and faster-than-light propulsion . He cites all the right authors, such as Coxeter, whose works I recently read. And he is certainly right when he says Einstein's theory is only a special case of a wider physics."

There are several other Vallee diary entries which speak of Sarfatti. In anotherr one, dated 22 September 1997, when alluding to the National Institute for Discovery Science (NIDS) Vallee writes:

"You chaps are obviously part of the Others predicted to me in 1952 by a sort of conscious computer and spacecraft from the future that we will now attempt to build."

FATE magazine article 

In an April 2006 article by Preston Dennett, in "FATE" magazine we learn:

"In 1952 and 1953, when I was about 12 or 13 years old, I received a phone call...in which a mechanical sounding voice said it was a computer on board a flying saucer. They wanted to teach me something and would I be willing? This was my free choice. Would I be willing to be taught - to communicate with them? I remember a shiver going up my spine, because i said, 'Hey man, this is real.' Of course, I was a kid...but I said yes."

Sarfatti was impressed. he ran and got his friends, and they gathered together in his bedroom, awaiting the upcoming promised contact. Unfortunately, nothing occurred, and Sarfatti assumed at first that it was just a clever practical joke.

At this point, his memory of the event strangely ends. But according to Sarfatti's mother, the first phone call was followed by a series of similar phone calls - each giving Sarftatti information that would leave him forever changed. Says Sarfatti, 'My mother remembers this experience very well. It turns out that I had forgotten most of it. This was really something that occurred over several weeks..."

Here is another take on this series of phone calls:

"I was reading a book on computer switching circuits at home when the phone rang. I answered it and heard a strange sequence of clunking mechanical sounds. Then a metallic sounding voice comes on the line. A cold mechanical voice is the only way I can describe it. It gives a long series of numbers that I did not understand and then calls me 'Jack' and says it's a 'conscious computer onboard a spacecraft.' It may have said it was from the future, but I am not sure. However, that was the implication of what it said. Anyway, it says I've been selected to be one of '400 young receptive minds' to be part of a special project but that I must make the choice myself. The voice on the phone told me that I would begin to meet the others I was to work with in twenty years. I was scared and everything in me screamed to say NO! and hang up. I felt a strong jolt of electricity go up my spine to the base of my skull and I heard myself say YES. I was terrified and fascinated. The voice said 'Good, go out on your fire escape and we will send a ship to pick you up in ten minutes.' When I hung up I ran like a bat out of hell and found my friend Winky, who is now a homicide detective in Brooklyn. We, and a few other kids, went back to my apartment to wait for the flying saucer but it never came."

This then, was the beginning of Sarfatti's introduction to the topic. 

Sunday, February 28, 2021

Why was the FBI made aware, of the 21 February 2021 "fast-moving" cylindrical object?

The Warzone

In an article dated 24 February 2021, the Warzone's Tylor Rogoway, reported on a statement made by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) concerning American Airlines Flight 2292's observation of a fast-moving, cylindrical object over New Mexico, on 21 February 2021. The statement read:

"A pilot reported seeing an object over New Mexico shortly after noon local time on Sunday, Feb. 21, 2021. FAA air traffic controllers did not see any object in the area on their radarscopes."

In an earlier article, dated 23 February 2021, Rogoway obtained the following statement from American Airlines:

"Following a debrief of our Flight crew and additional information received, we can confirm this radio transmission was from American Airlines Flight 2292 on Feb. 21. For any additional queries on this, we encourage you to reach out to the FBI."

Newspaper updates 

The 25 February 2021 edition of the "Albuquerque Journal," (imaged above) in an article by T. S. Last, reported that they had contacted the FBI about the incident, and that the FBI had responded:

"The FBI is aware of the reported incident," the agency replied to a Journal inquiry. 'While our policy is to neither confirm nor deny investigations, the FBI works continuously with our federal, state, local and tribal partners to share intelligence and protect the public.' "

The "Winnipeg Star" dated 26 February 2021, identified which FBI field office had made the comment.

"The FBI in Albuquerque, New Mexico, said they were aware of the reported incident, but neither confirmed nor denied the investigation, in an email to the Arizona Republic.

 A question arises

After reading all of the above, a question arose in my mind. "Why is the FBI involved in a reported observation of an unidentified object in the sky?" This question first arose for me in June 2020. On 17 June 2020, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence wrote Report 116-233. This report was in response to the contents of Bill S3905 "Intelligence Authorization Act for fiscal year 2021."

In its report, under the heading "Advanced Aerial Threats," the committee wrote that it:

"...directs the DNI, in conjunction with the Secretary of Defense and the heads of such other agencies as the Director and Secretary jointly consider relevant, to submit a report within 180 days of the...on unidentified aerial phenomena..."

Later there appeared in the same report, that the committee directs that the report include:

"A detailed analysis of data of the FBI, which was derived from investigations of intrusions of unidentified aerial phenomena data over restricted United States airspace."

To me, this statement implies that the FBI has recently become involved in investigations into UAP, as well as drones. This would explain the fact that they were made aware of the 21 February 2021, New Mexico incident. This only leads to further questions, such as what is their mandate in UAP investigation? Who asked them to be involved? When?


The 2020 reported sightings of large drones, in formation, over parts of Colorado, Nebraska and Kansa in the U.S.A. saw the FAA leading a task force. Documents obtained by U.S. researcher Douglas D. Johnson, under the FOIA, disclosed that the FBI was part of this task force.

What is the FBI's actual legislated mission? According to their own website their mission is "To protect the American people and uphold the constitution of the United States." Their priorities are:

"* Protect the U.S. from terrorist attack

* Protect the U.S. against foreign intelligence, espionage and cyber operations

* Combat significant cyber criminal activity

* Combat public corruption at all levels

* Protect civil rights

* Combat transnational criminal enterprises

* Combat significant white-collar crime

* Combat significant violent crime."

Returning to my question

So, I ask, what area of the FBI's mission and priorities, would apply to the investigation of UAP? It seems to me that the only relevant one is "Protect the U.S. against foreign intelligence, espionage..." and the possibility that some UAP might include activities by foreign adversaries. 

I looked round for any relevant comment by the FBI itself, about why it might be involved in the investigation of drone sightings and UAP and found a statement by Deputy Assistant, Critical Incident Response Group, Scott Brunner, made in June 2018 to the Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee concerning what he referred to as "Unmanned Aerial Systems."

"The FBI is concerned that criminals and terrorists will exploit UAS in ways that pose a serious threat to the safety of the American people. The UAS threat could take a number of forms, including illegal surveillance..."

So, back to my original question, "Why is the FBI involved in a reported observation of a unidentified object in the sky?" I can see the rationale for their interest in Unmanned Aerial Systems, i.e. drones, and their potential use to say, drop drugs inside jails; and for terrorists to use them to blow up an individual, but why their interest in  fast-moving cylindrical objects over remote New Mexico, at around 35,000 feet? 

In conclusion, I am currently unable to arrive at a satisfactory answer to my question. 


Thank you to Boston researcher Barry Greenwood for supplying various newspaper clippings, about the 21 February 2021 incident.

Update 2 March 2021

I received an email from U.S. researcher Mark Rodeghier who reminded me of an aircraft "near miss" case from 1997.

A report on the case by R. J. Durant in the September, 1999, issue of the MUFON Journal, gave details of the encounter by a Swissair Boeing 747, which "...experienced a "near miss" with a cylindrical "glowing white" object traveling almost directly toward the cockpit at very high speed...at 23,000 feet...in cloudless sky." The aircraft was travelling between Philadelphia and Boston in the U.S. at the time.

On page 4, Durant reveals "Subsequently, FAA notified the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the National Transport Safety Board (NTSB) and both agencies assigned officers to attend the meeting with the Swissair pilots."

Durant's report is well worth a read in light of the 21 February 2021 incident. Other details may be read at http://www.nicap.org/970809swissair_dir.htm

Update 10 March 2021

Twitter-10 March 2021 Roger Glassel

Tuesday, February 23, 2021

Previously unseen Archives New Zealand UAP file now available in digitized form

In a 14 July 2017 blog post, Melbourne researcher Paul Dean described locating a number of UAP related files on the  Archives New Zealand website. In that blog, Paul wrote:

"New Zealand’s atmospheric and meteorological agencies maintained UFO–related files too, The first item is titled, “Meteorological Office: Research: Meteorological – Unidentified Flying Objects”, and its record number is “42/6/23”. The date range of this file is 1968 to 1984. The originating and controlling agency for this file is the Head Office of the National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research Limited (NIWAR). This quasi–government entity is described, in government organizational chronologies, as a “…Crown owned research and consulting company with expertise in water and atmospheric research”. The file is listed as “Open Access”. This is interesting, as the NIWAR was engaged in meteorological and atmospheric study, so any evaluation or assessment of the UFO issue by competent scientists is obviously valuable to researchers. Also, like other New Zealand UFO files, this item is listed as being “Part 1”, which implies a continuation of the file well beyond the mid–1980’s. No more “parts”, however, are listed when performing archival searches. As for the contents, one hopes that NIWAR conducted a reasonable degree of primary research into the UFO issue, possibly studying unknown cases, and dealing directly with other New Zealand agencies. More likely, however, is that the file contains low–level sighting reports, collections of local newspaper articles, and other mundane items. Previous experience suggests New Zealand’s atmospheric and meteorological agencies maintained UFO–related files too, The first item is titled, “Meteorological Office: Research: Meteorological – Unidentified Flying Objects”, and its record number is “42/6/23”. The date range of this file is 1968 to 1984. The originating and controlling agency for this file is the Head Office of the National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research Limited (NIWAR). This quasi–government entity is described, in government organizational chronologies, as a “…Crown owned research and consulting company with expertise in water and atmospheric research”. The file is listed as “Open Access”. This is interesting, as the NIWAR was engaged in meteorological and atmospheric study, so any evaluation or assessment of the UFO issue by competent scientists is obviously valuable to researchers. Also, like other New Zealand UFO files, this item is listed as being “Part 1”, which implies a continuation of the file well beyond the mid–1980’s. No more “parts”, however, are listed when performing archival searches. As for the contents, one hopes that NIWAR conducted a reasonable degree of primary research into the UFO issue, possibly studying unknown cases, and dealing directly with other New Zealand agencies. More likely, however, is that the file contains low–level sighting reports, collections of local newspaper articles, and other mundane items. Previous experience suggests the contents of “Meteorological Office: Research: Meteorological – Unidentified Flying Objects” is somewhere in the middle."

The other day, after locating, and blogging about,  one digitized UAP file on the Archives New Zealand website; by using different search terms I was able to locate a second digitized UAP file. This turned out to be the previously unseen file, 42/6/23, described by Paul.

The contents

The file, including the front cover, is 311 images in length, and as Paul said covers the years 1968-1984. It does include a large range of low-level, mainly lights in the sky, type sightings, submitted by the general public. However, it does also provide details of sightings from ships, e.g. the "Tasman Enterprise" 1 January 1978 (image FL62798595); and Air Traffic Controllers, (a) e.g. a 1972 white light  which approached an airfield, then departed, and which was not visible on radar. No known aircraft were in the area at the time (image FL62798573.) (b) e.g. a radar/visual observation dated 13 March 1977, involving Wellington Air Traffic Control (image FL62798580.)

Other agencies

It also provides copies of correspondence between Meteorological Services and other agencies of the New Zealand government which give an insight into internal government policy about the topic of UAP. Some examples are shown below:

Dated 1 April 1968, a letter from the New Zealand Air Force Headquarters, invited the Director of Meteorological Services to an "informal meeting" about UFOs on 10 April 1968. Other participants in this meeting were individuals from the Department of Scientific and Industrial Research; the Carter Observatory; the Department of Civil Aviation; Ministry of Defence, and the NZ Air Force (Image FL62798710.)

For further details on the New Zealand investigating committee, click here

Dated 14 December 1971, the Directorate of Service Intelligence, Ministry of Defence wrote to various agencies including Meteorological Services, about a UAP observation by Traffic Officer, Robert W. Munn, on 9 December 1971, over Wellington. A representative of the Ministry had interviewed Munn  and provided details to the agencies about the sighting (Image FL62798639.)

Dated 15 September 1972, there is a "confidential" letter from the Ministry of Defence to the Director, Meteorological Services concerning" Unidentified objects of foreign origin." It opens with "Recent experience has suggested the need for arrangements for the official examination of unidentified objects of foreign origin landing in New Zealand." The objects of concern are space debris and Soviet oceanographic equipment washed up on New Zealand shores. The letter goes on to ask that any reported objects drawn to the attention of Meteorological offices, be referred to the Joint Intelligence Bureau, Ministry of Defence (Image FL62798851.) The Ministry stated "That it would be appreciated if the interest of this Ministry in unidentified objects of foreign origin could be treated as classified information." (Image FL62798693.)

Paul Dean had come across the details of a relevant file, and in his 2017 blog he wrote:

"Possibly related to the above Police holdings is a file titled “Unidentified Objects of Foreign Origin”. The record number is “48/65/2” and the date range is listed as 1972 to 1973. Also, the file is listed as “Part 1”. This implies that there may be more “parts” to this file, but none are listed in the Archival system. Also, the file is falls in a “Defence Documents” accession category, and is a considered “Restrictions May Apply” item. Importantly, the agency responsible for creating this file was the Department of Scientific and Industrial Research (DSIR). The DSIR provided scientific and technical services to the New Zealand government before being dissolved and reorganized in 1992. It is likely that this file relates to the 1972 space debris re–entries discussed previously. Both the date range and the title of the file are the two main giveaways. Moreover, we know that the DSIR was involved in assessing pieces of crashed space junk shortly after they were discovered. DSIR’s involvement in space debris analysis came to light in the New Zealand press, but also through documents released by America’s Defence Intelligence Agency (DIA) and State Department."

As far as can be determined this file has not yet been digitized.  

Dated 30 March 1984, is a letter from  the External Intelligence Bureau of the Prime Minister's Department, Wellington, to Radio Hauraki responding to a request from the station regarding information from the Bureau's files about "...extra-terrestrial spacecraft and/or occupants that have landed or been sighted in New Zealand territory." The Bureau advised that they had no information on this subject, but did confirm that they played a coordinating role in the study of  space objects that have landed in New Zealand, e.g. satellites (Image FL62798700.)

General correspondence

There are numerous letters between individuals, both in New Zealand and overseas, and the Meteorological Services. They deal with requests for information about the famous 1978 Kaikoura lights sightings; including letters from MUFON New Zealand; US researchers Robert Sheaffer and Peter Sturrock; and the ex Director of the South Australian Bureau of Meteorology, Alan Brunt. 

In summary

As always, a detailed reading of any archived UAP file always reveals a few details which were previously not know. I am sure that any researcher in New Zealand will be able to add to the few examples which I have provide above, by reading through the file.

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