On 27 February 2019, KLAS TV, Las Vegas, aired an interview between journalist George Knapp, and former Senator Harry Reid. I have prepared a transcript of that interview.
HR – I’ll bet you anything that China is spending some money to check things out. I’ll bet you anything that KGB Putin is spending some money checking this out.
GK – Former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid dropped some major hints that he knows that foreign adversaries Russia and China have carried out their own military studies to figure out how UFOs work and how to build their own.
The so called Gimbal UFO reported by military pilots in 2015, is one of dozens of similar objects encountered off the coasts of Florida and Virginia in the last three years, according to Pentagon sources. The Tic Tac UFO which buzzed the USS Nimitz carrier group in 2004, was not only seen by pilots and cameras, but also by several high tech sensor systems, as documented in a 13 page report written for the Pentagon. A document that went into the database of AAWSAP, that’s the original acronym for the study that Reid sponsored.
The Senator said these craft are not ours.
Wherever they are from, what do you think their interest is in us? What is it? Why are they buzzing around in the skies? And why interfering with the military?
HR – I would turn that around, why are we interested in them? The same answer to your question, because we don’t know.
GK – What about the Tic tac? You know you’ve seen people try and explain it away. It was flares. It was birds. It’s kind of an insult to our best pilots and our sensor systems that show this was real. It could do things we can’t do and we don’t understand it.
HR – Well. This has been going on for a long time (missing word.) Sightings are said to have been, send up a rocket in California or something, you know, just. People do not want, who are in positions of responsibility, whether it’s the Pentagon or whatever it might be, they don’t want to try and explain something that’s many times not explainable.
GK – Reid says he has not personally read all of the reports and papers produced by the AAWSAP study, but he saw a lot of it. He assigned two senior staff members to look at pretty much all of it. The Pentagon has only confirmed the existence of 38 unclassified scientific papers produced by the study; five of these have been made public so far. But what else is in the files? Reid personally confirmed that the study investigated reports of UFO activity over American nuclear missile bases. He also said part of the focus was on a mysterious ranch in north-east Utah; a property once owned by businessman Robert Bigelow.
The I-Team has learnt that Bigelow’s UFO study employed more than 50 people at one point. One of the known 38 papers looked into harmful health consequences for persons who had close encounters. The paper has not been made public, but the chief scientist in the program spoke about it last year in Las Vegas.
[Cut to Hal Puthoff speaking at the SSE conference in Las Vegas, in 2018, the part about the Brazilian government’s 1977/78 UFO study.]
GK – Senator Reid wanted to transition the study into a special access program he says, because that was the only way to gain access to information and materials produced by other classified programs that had studied the same question.
HR – Other programs that had been done, and information they had, including different pieces of evidence.
GK – Do you know what these pieces are?
HR – No. I just only heard rumours. I don’t want to go into rumours, but that’s why I wanted special access to go there; and if I couldn’t go ahead, some of my staff to look at it.
GK – The question remains, to go look at what?