Friday, June 25, 2021

Australian Department of Defence responds to some UAP related questions


The Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF,)  part of the broader Australian Department of Defence (DoD,) was charged with the responsibility of investigating the UFO phenomenon, from the early 1950's to 1994. Since then, the DoD has referred anyone in Australia wishing to report a sighting of a UFO, to Police or state level civilian UFO organisations.

A project facilitated by myself, between 2003-2008 located, and had digitised, a large number of Australian government agency files on UAP. Details of these files may be read here.  For a comprehensive treatment of what these files contained, click here. 

So, since 1994 there has been no overt interest in the subject, by any Australian government agency. I say overt, because due to the nature of the phenomenon, I have always suspected that some analyst in an agency such as the Defence Science andTechnology Group (DSTG) or in the Defence Intelligence Organisation (DIO,) will have a brief to quietly keep across the topic.

The DoD and UAP

In June 2019, I wanted to see what the current Australian DoD position was in respect to the topic of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP.) I therefore provided them with some context, and then sought a response from the DoD to the following questions:

1. On 23 April 2019 the U.S. Politico magazine carried a story that the U.S. Navy was issuing new guidelines for the reporting of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena.

2. On 26 May 2019 the New York Times newspaper carried a story that U.S. Naval aviators had interacted with Unidentified Aerial Phenomena as recently as 2015.

My questions were:

1. Has the Australian Department of Defence any current guidelines concerning the reporting by Department of Defence personnel of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena? If so, may I obtain a copy?

2. If there are no current DoD guidelines, is there any section of the DoD which acts as a collection point for unsolicited reports of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena which might come from service personnel, e.g. through an aviation hazard reporting system? If so, might I have details?

3. Has the DoD any plans, based on U.S. policy changes, to issue instructions to service personnel to report Unidentified Aerial Phenomena?

The response, attributed to a spokesperson from Defence was:

"Defence does not have a protocol that covers recording or reporting of UFO sightings."


Given the current official interest in UAP shown by the U.S. Department of Defense I recently posed another set of questions to the Australian Department of Defence. These were:

Q1: Is the Department aware of recent global media reporting of a briefing to the U.S. House of Representatives Select Committee on Intelligence on the topic of UAP, such briefing leading to Congressional members stating that UAP represent a threat to their national security?

Q2: Is the Department aware of a forthcoming report by the U.S. Director of National Intelligence, to the U.S. Congress on U.S. government agencies' knowledge of UAP?

Q3: Has the Australian Department of Defence been approached  in recent times by the U.S. Department of Defense to liaise on the subject of UAP? If so, are details of any such liaison available?

Q4: I am aware that the RAAF devoted resources in the time period 1950-1994 to the study of UAP. In the light of the above, is anyone in the Australian Department of Defence currently monitoring the subject of UAP? If not, why not? 

Today, 25 June 2021 I received a response, attributed to a Defence spokesperson:

"Defence does not have a protocol that covers recording or reporting of unidentified aerial phenomena/unidentified flying object sightings.

The US Department of Defense Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force actions or reporting are outside of Defence's remit. Queries regarding that organisation should be directed to the US Department of Defense."

 My comments:

1. As you can see, there is a repeating of their 2019 position, namely that "Defence does not have a protocol that covers recording or reporting of UFO sightings."

2. However, if you read my 2021 questions again, you will see that I did not mention the UAP Task Force at all. So, either my questions necessitated someone in DoD taking a look at the global media reporting and came across the UAPTF; or my suggestion that there is some analyst in the DoD who monitors the topic, may have some merit.

Update: 26 June 2021

ABC journalist Matthew Eaton, published a digital online article after contacting the Australian DoD. Eaton received the exact same response from the DoD that I did. 


  1. Hi Keith,

    Is this not yet more evidence, if any were needed, that some people's belief in the inevitability of disclosure is a pipe dream?

    Even if one assumes that the Anglophone powers have deep within their intel agencies incontrovertible evidence that aliens are here, they'll never tell their public-facing media departments, let alone the wider public, and all the FOI requests in the world won't change that.

    Is it not the case, therefore, that what's sorely needed is for us to look outside government for proof? A crowd-funded research project similar to SETI but focused on the Earth, with sonar and telescopes, high speed cameras and radar tracking couldn't be any less frustrating and any less likely to bear fruit than rooting through redacted files that have been stripped of everything meaningful.

    Why is it that people can persuade billionaires to throw millions at absurd SETI listening projects focused on planets half a galaxy away, but not even pennies can be found when it comes to scientifically hunting UFOs/USOs right here right now?

    1. Hi Keith!
      Hi Matthew!
      Dreams build cultures, Hispanic, Anglophone, ancestral-speaking indigenous, or whatever they were around the world.
      But languages ​​are only a way of understanding, knowledge passes through the wisdom of the arts, sciences and technology, be they the millennial legacy or those created in modern laboratories.
      The DoD answer on "the protocol" is very clear, it reminds me of the X-Files introduction "government denies knowledge".
      An implicit denial statement, "the government denies", but does not say it "has no" knowledge.
      The Australian DoD does the same, "it does not cover the record or report", but it does not say that it "does not investigate", and there is also an "or" there, which is lexically a duality.
      Mateo calls for investment in local search, and indicates that declassification is utopia, but some of us have lived against it, here in Australia.
      Months ago and based on partial data from the UAP documents of the local DoD, two retired agents ... for those who are in the matter it is known that no one "leaves" some services, they were supervising in casual clothing, the operations of local research in tribal territory.
      In the weeks of the process many millions of cents were spent there, then all the scientists returned to their countries of origin.
      The UAPs are just that, but they represent much more: a life other than human life and any form of life on Earth, in that representation those who know more than the rest and in this case our Aboriginal culture, we doubt and that is why we remain silent. .
      We doubt because of the disrespect, business and egos of ufology and the media, we doubt because of the appropriation of individual and cultural history, and we doubt because of the wise but empty speeches.
      In Australia, as in the rest of the world, "respect" is the keyword, but very few understand it, and that is why the declassification is only a guide and nothing more than that.
      Matthew, please read some of the comments here on this website and you will see that some spend fortunes on local and global research.
      Thanks Keith!

    2. For Dunny-
      Dear friend, I want to publicly thank you for the implication of respect in your comment-
      As a woman of science you understand the importance of sharing from your ancestral identity-
      Thanks to you and your family for having welcomed us into your home, we will be back in a few months-

    3. For Mrs. Dunny.
      You and other people, what research in Australia?
      Where ?.
      What was found?
      Was that terrestrial or not?
      Who finances the research?
      How much money was spent on the research?
      Why was nothing said in the media?
      Does the government know about this?
      Did your partners take something from Australia?
      What was it?
      Where to ?.
      Where do you publish the research result?
      When ?.
      How can I speak to you in person?

    4. Reply to George - Part 1
      First, you need, we all need to read in detail and between the lines the government documents, they do not speak only about UAPs, although sometimes and partially only in UAPs some may be interested.
      I answer your questions.
      1), 2) and 3) We study an ecosystem of endemic plant and animal species within an area that by ancestral tradition is sacred.
      It is scattered in an ancient transverse geological fracture valley, in the inner ring of tectonic reflux of an astroblem.
      Although the works come from the 1970s, today we are focused on a local plant, it has electro biological properties that generate perceptible charges in each individual specimen and magnetic fields in its biotopic residence.
      Since 2019, work has been carried out on the study of morphogenic alterations of chloroplastic thylakoids, produced by the presence of exotic elements.
      What is interesting about the process is the alteration of the dynamics of the Calvin-Benson Cycle, which in this species has the effect of fixing metal atoms, forming mixed molecules regardless of their magnetic properties or the absence of them.
      4) Plant and animal species are terrestrial, but some of their properties are altered by non-terrestrial exotic elements, but do not worry because we believe that this has occurred around the world on land and oceans since millennia.
      5) All funding is private, 1% by our family community, plus 49% by Quantum Laboratories, plus 25% by Australian members of the LINE-AU Initiative, and plus 25% by Australian members of Global JWRED System & Continental Australia Node private networks.
      The destination of the funds is also private, I am talking here of the participation of millions of people in a crowdfunding structure giving a contribution equal to or less than AUD 10.

    5. Reply to George - Part 2
      6) Since 1973 a total of AUD 5,990.4 million, and since 2019 a total of AUD 421.9 million, global and Australian investment.
      7) These works were published in various print media since its announcement in 1971, then it was spoken on radio, television, interviews and conferences, it was also published on the internet and intranet, social networks and in specialized scientific papers.
      All the detailed works are published on the private Global JWRED System network, with global access in all languages and without participation, contribution and debate restrictions.
      Logically the center of the information are plants and animals that have coexisted with humanity for thousands of years, and not a 240-pixel, 2-minute video of a tic-tac taken in international ocean waters.
      Perhaps that is why you have not been interested in the subject :)
      8) Of course the government knows about this, it was invited to participate actively in 1970, and for years we waited for them to overcome the bureaucracy and academic egos without getting a concrete answer.
      Fortunately, today several officials of different levels work with us as equals, personally and disinterestedly.
      But again, do not worry that this happens all over the world, forever and in all matters.
      9), 10) and 11) Nothing was taken from Australia, not even for advanced analysis, instead all the complexity of science and technology was brought here and it is today our private individual and collective property.
      12 and 13) The partial results are published weekly on the private network, Global JWRED System, while the final results we expect will be presented at a public conference in Australia before 2031 along with the applications and practical developments.
      14) You are talking to me right now, and you can do it in person when this health emergency is over, then I will call you at your office in Melbourne.
      You're welcome.

  2. Cudos to you for trying Keith! And with so much of the focus on Friday on the US, I loved the timing of the Defence Department's response to you! I am sure the members of the Five Eyes network have all been watching to see if the big eye blinks first! Cheers, Shane.

  3. Hi Everyone

    I hope I previously didn't come across as dismissive of anyone's efforts as that was most definitely *not* my intention. As a relative novice in this field, I'm incredibly grateful to people like Keith, Pauline, Richard Dolan, Patrick Gross, Stanton Friedman, and myriad others for what they've done and had to put up with down the decades. I'm just of the opinion that the powers that be lie about pretty much everything as a matter of habit if nothing else, and the more important or secret something is, the more they'll lie.

    Historic records of sightings are of huge value and well worth investigating, as is offering oneself as a contemporary point of contact. Yet it is difficult for me to see how irrefutable proof can be acquired without a concerted, global, scientific, publicly-funded, non-governmental, SETI-style investigation.

    For example, I believe the incidents in Australia on the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th and 24th of April 1966 demonstrate clear evidence of UFOs, but none of us can *prove* it. Nor can we say who or what was in the craft, where they were from, where they went, or what their intentions were.

    I have no doubt we all want the truth. The only difference of opinion is perhaps how best to get to it.

    Kind regards,


  4. May be?!!! Are these people who take the metamaterials of the ufocrash?!!! We want to know !!! We want the truth !!!

    1. Dear Victoria, please tell me where these people are, so as to prevent them from stealing my invisibility cloak or using the teleporter in my garage without my permission :)
      Then, if you want, you can read something about Caugme (1890), Lindman (1920), Kock (1940), Rotman (1960), Veselago (1970) and Pendry-Smith (1990), and some other known and unknown scientists who they worked on the "metamaterial"
      All of them did not receive the ideas and developments of metamaterials from extraterrestrial sources, they were and are intelligent humans.
      The technology that you see on the street and are going to buy at shoping is "delayed" technology, mostly half a century and in other cases a century when it comes to military components.
      Please, please, please don't get carried away by the aliens, the human race is capable of great achievements on its own.

  5. Sorry Keith, I can't get into my profile but I want to comment anyway.
    PART 1///
    I am an accounting expert and I am interested in the subject of UAPs.
    I heard the numbers commented on by Mrs. Dunny this morning on 2 different radios, with some interesting comments from listeners.
    I infer, I suppose, and make my contribution if the owner of the website allows me.
    AUD 5,990.4 million in 48 years is something like AUD 2.4 million per week.
    For the tasks described, can I assume at least a payroll of 30? scientific specialists in different disciplines, with the additional of field and laboratory work, exchange, risks, transportation, accommodation, food, equipment and insurance among others, perhaps AUD 18 thousand each per week, that is AUD 540 thousand per week in human Resources.
    If I consider that the average in this expense corresponds to 12% of any research project, we are here at 22.5%, well above it.
    Then, the operating cost, that is, everything that each specific activity in science and technology implies, which I calculate based on the worker-hour (for the case 30 x 38 hours a week, that is, 1140 hours), with inputs and specific expenses of tasks, typical of human resources in their performance, is in the order of AUD 550 including transportation, registration and information, so we have AUD 627 thousand.
    That value usually reaches 20% of the usual research expenses, here it is in the order of 26.1%.
    We already spend 48.6% of the weekly budget, which means that for these people their workers come first.
    We have 51.4% of the rest, which must be divided into vehicles and their maintenance, facilities and their maintenance, scientific equipment and their maintenance, expenses, services, assistance personnel (someone spoke on the radio about an activity of about 250 workers in different tasks ), and other fixed expenses like fuel for example.
    Let's add emergency air assistance (a helicopter), medical services, communications, administration, scientific management and local, regional and international coordination, and we are in the numbers.

  6. PART 2///
    In conclusion, Australia has one of the highest minimum wages in the world, although local costs are also high for many goods and services, so the values ​​correspond to a moderate and realistic research in which priority is given to staff and their unemployment .
    2 tips, one is that for the final figure and the individual contribution mentioned, we are talking about +10 million contributors, which is logical for a global organization.
    The other tip is that on the radio it was mentioned that in Australia there are at least 15 projects in operation of the same group and that this is the global average.
    This, analyzed from another economic and financial perspective, could explain the growth of certain indices of public participation and growth of community initiatives in the different geographic regions.
    No one can deny that community-citizen participation, as well as tourism and shared activities, the recognition of aboriginal natives, their culture and the deserved respect for their traditions, have grown from the local perspective and from the international perspective in recent years and decades.
    Also grew the interest of children and youth in local traditions, and even technology, educational and cultural knowledge have had a boost.
    Due to the significance of the issue, another issue that grew, although slight and timid, was the interest of society in matters related to technology, science and knowledge, and within this the perspectives of different officials in relation to UAPs and their implications.
    It is enough to observe the actions of the armed forces in relation to the territory and the development of prevention and surveillance applications and technology.
    So, we have here a development engine, which silently drives society on the right path? Maybe that's the way it is, the truth is that in the midst of the screaming on the radio a few hours ago, someone wondered:
    "So in a few years, maybe, we can send some of those Australian plants to Mars to produce safe energy for future settlers, or we can grow them inside spacecraft to provide electricity, heat and power. Or we can stop using oil here."
    So, if it is certain that this activity is one engine of dreams and hopes, those that ultimately move today and have always moved human evolution (sorry if it is too much of a compliment).
    Good for that!


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