Calvine
At about 9p.m. on 4 August 1990, near a locality named Calvine, in Scotland, two men are reported to have taken a series of photographs of an unusual hovering object, which after several minutes, took off vertically at speed. Much discussion and debate about the incident has occurred since then.
Logan
However, there is a lesser known 1990 sighting of a diamond shaped object, from a British Royal Air Force Airborne Warning and Control System (AWAC) aircraft, flying between Iceland and Scotland. Details of this other 1990 sighting became available during a very recent (2025) YouTube interview with host Harald Havas.
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One of the witnesses to this other 1990 sighting was Lenval Logan. Logan, originally from the United Kingdom; in 1990 was in the United States Air Force and based in Germany. After his 20 plus year's service in the USAF, he spent 15 years as a U.S. government contractor. Included in this were several years as part of the U.S. Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force (UAPTF.) Recently, he developed an app, named Phenom, to collect UAP data.
In order to present the other 1990 sighting details in Logan's own words, I have taken the liberty of making a transcript of part of Logan's YouTube interview with Havas.
Transcript
"Stationed in Germany...we had the British AWACs show up and... why don't you come fly with us? And I did...I ran into my boss and said do you have a problem with it...go for it...this is in January 1990. So, I had just finished the Intel school.
We used to have a program in Europe called REFORGER which stood for Return of Forces to Germany. It was an annual thing...I happened to be on one of the last flights...we were on a flight coming down just past Iceland heading for Scotland to go to Rhein-Main at Frankfurt the Air Force base that was up there. I had what was called a Philadelphian cheesesteak {sandwich-KB}...the Sun was just coming up, and I/m bored, looking out the window, chewing on my cheese steak, and all of a sudden there's this diamond, arrowhead, looking thing, going in and out, zipping around and then going in the clouds. But when it would go into a cloud, it would change vectors inside the cloud and pop back out again.
And I was, like, 'Hey look at that' And then there was another guy who was eating a sandwich too. He was standing up. The two of us were sitting in a chair. We are all trying to watch this thing.
And you could see it was turning from, like, black and whiteish. I'm not sure if it was because there was water was on it, and there was a shine. But it was going in and out. We were like, 'What is that?' All of a sudden, I had this thought, 'this is probably one of our projects and I'm going to be doing the coolest job ever, so may be shut my mouth and just kind of ignore it.' And finally, it just kind of disappeared, it went into a cloud or something and I got to my unit. I waited for a while, you know, get comfortable, and then I went, we have what you call a weapons and tactics officer. I talked to him and said 'Hey, so what's it out there that's doing all this weird stuff?' He looked at me like I was an idiot. 'I don't know of anything that does that.'
Now, this is at the end of the Belgian wave, and I didn't know anything about the Belgium wave. So, it didn't connect. Went to Desert Storm, came back from Desert Storm. So, when that British AWACs land and they actually go on board, I figured yes, that would be great, learn something new. Then while I was up there, I was, like, so, you guys see everything in the skies. They're like, 'Yeh.' I was like I have a question to ask you guys. 'What's out there that does the ziggy zaggy thing?' You know, real fast? 'They looked at me like I was an idiot. Finally, the guy says 'Show him.'
And it was a map of Europe, and you could see all the aircraft flying around... All of a sudden, saw something go passing through real fast and I was like 'Yeh, yeh, yeh, yeh who's that?' ....It was like a video, like a recording, like a screenshot...I was like 'that guy.' And they were like "You know." I was like, 'No I don't know.' They were like 'Logan, come on you know.' 'Look, I don't know.' They said that is your SR-71 from back in the day. That was like 'That's not him.'
I was like, the one that does the ziggy zaggy thing. And they said Ok and he looked at his friend again and he goes 'Show him the other one.' And they showed me, again the same area, slightly different but same area and there's this thing. Every sweep of the radar he was somewhere else. And I was so excited I started cursing. I was like that that there. That guy, who is that? And they're like 'You know Logan." And I said 'Let's not go through that again. Who's that?' 'Come on Logan.' And they actually thought I knew; and I was like, I said 'I don't know who that is.' And I told them what I saw. Gave them more descriptive indication.
They said 'Logan we have been trying for ever, whenever we see this guy, to reach out to him on the radio. They never respond. We have vectored aircraft towards them, and they zip away. It was almost like, every sweep of the radar he was in a different position. I was like, 'so you mean you guys don't know who he is?' They're like "no, they said, we just figured it was you Americans playing trick on us.' I was like, I said,' hold on a second. So, you know that this guy exists. Does your squadron know?' 'Yes, it's a joke, it's a joke in the squadron because everybody knows.' I was like 'Nobody doing anything about it? 'I said we got to protect the airspace all the other stuff...how are we supposed to protect from someone who won't answer, and we can't even get close to them?' ...after that mission was over, I thanked them and I said it was one of those things that stayed in the back of my head, that if I ever get the chance to know anything more about this, I want to look into it...
The host then asked did they see this on multiple times? Logan responded, multiple times on their radar screen. Got to the point that they started to ignore it because they didn't know what else to do. The host then refers to a photograph the Calvine object, and asks if Logan saw it in one position? Logan said that 'I saw it from the front. From the side. I saw it from the back. but it was never really like at an angle or anything like that. So, when James asked me when was this? I said January 1990. He said later on there is something I want to show you. He sent it to me, I said oh crap where did you find this, and I said this is the exact same thing I saw. And he was just as surprised as I was, because he said this is the Calvine UFO video, picture and I was like, tell me more about it. After that, I went and read up and figured out what he was talking about. I was like, James, I saw this. This is the one that I saw."
Other information
Other pieces of information which came out. He watched his January 1990 object for something like five minutes. He didn't see anything escorting it. He doesn't know what altitude his AWACs plane was at but guessed at 30.000 feet. The object was below the AWACS aircraft but not at a steep angle. Didn't have a scale of size so couldn't estimate the object's size. Description like 'It looked like every angle, every corner, had the diamond shape...it wasn't moving conventionally.'
