Wednesday, January 19, 2022

New Luis Elizondo interview - Coast to Coast - 16 January 2022

Luis Elizondo was interviewed by George Knapp, on 16 January 2022, on Coast to Coast AM. They were discussing recent events, and taking a look at "what next?" I was particularly interested in any new pieces of information. The following are my notes of what was new to me, which I took while listening to the show. 

Inspector General's Office. Their job is to make the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) "run better." Luis said that originally DoD spokesperson Dana White had stated that Lue was running AATIP and it was about UFOs. Later, other spokespersons changed the narrative. People in Under Secretary of Defesne for Intelligence (USDI) were upset with Lue. Lue submitted documents to the Inspector General's office which substantiated his role and findings. The IG office was responsive to his material. They are now looking into Lue's claims about the USDI. The investigation could take months or years. Lue said that during some of that time, he was briefing Chris Mellon on the topic. Mellon took the material to higher levels of the DoD.

Names. Knapp said that he had previously asked Lue the name of his immediate supervisor. Is he still there? Lue replied, that yes that person is still there. He also said there were a couple of other individuals who were not helpful. George stated that he had done a bit of research and suggested to Lue that his immediate supervisor was named Garry Reid. The response from Lue, was he did recognise the name, but that if you can't say something nice, don't say anything. Then, "probably not saying anything." 

A little later, Lue asked George if he recognised the term "r-Space"? It was not classified, although classified work does get done there. It is a collaborative space for analysts in the intelligence community. One of the biggest enclaves there on "r-space" devotes time to UAP. The "cats out of the bag." Momentum is building.

2019 events. Knapp asked were there any attempts to take down and object? Lue responded that he couldn't talk to that. Then went on to talk about the minimum distance one could get to a U.S. warship before it took defensive action. Knapp said he had heard that the U.S. Navy was trying to "snag" an object. Lue stated that we only know about 5% of what went on, and that he hoped to tell more in his forthcoming book.

New Congress mandated UAP study group versus the DoD announced study group. Lue - "maybe only one of them will exist." The USDI which is now the USDI and Security, will create the office within the DoD. "It's my old office." However, its an oversight office, not an operational office. Avril Haines DNI also has a mandate from Congress. She is not under the yoke of the DoD - I suspect Haines will not hitch her wagon to the DoD train. Don't know what USDI will do. The Deputy Secretary of Defense is a smart lady. Don't know if she has a complete picture of USDI's involvement in UAP.

2022. Lue - what I personally proposed and what we are creating are civilian advisory boards - academic, scientific and technological, best and the brightest to advise our senior policy people on this topic. Talking to an individual who may head our academic board. Sociology is important.

Also in 2022, looking at more government involvement. Plus international cooperation - more countries wanting to share their UAP data with the U.S. The question is not are UAP real, but what to do if first contact? There will also be increased media interest in the topic.

Lue also then mentioned the name Jim Lacatski for the first time on air.

Update 20 January 2022. 

I now believe Lue was saying “R-Space” not “Our space.” Found a reference to it at

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/atf/In-VEST.pdf

which refers to

R-Space: https://rspace.dodiis.ic.gov (JWICS)

3 comments:

  1. The linked document has A-Space, iSpace and SpySpace but no r-Space. Others reported it as "Our Space." Which is it?

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  2. Luis is a CIA employee. For a long-time. You will get nothing out of him but typical government spin. In fact one of his jobs used to be to INTERROGATE folks that witnessed sightings. He is a POS phoney.

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